By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.
Ben Weinman, lead guitarist and founding member of the band The Dillinger Escape Plan, recently shared a lively dialogue with mentor and former collaborator Mike Patton in an interview displayed on Weinman’s website, Party Smasher Inc. The pair interacted with refreshing sincerity, reflecting on the importance of claiming responsibility for both successes and failures, artistic creation, and their past collaboration on The Dillinger Escape Plan EP Irony Is a Dead Scene.
The genuine love for music radiates between the musicians as Patton, the founder and lead singer of the experimental fusion band Mr. Bungle, imparts the lessons he learned from their tour in 1999, detailing on everything from an artist’s responsibility to the creativity
and magic behind “making something from nothing”.
Weinman also reminisces life on the road, redrawing Patton’s meticulous, uncompromising, and professional character as a skillful performing artist. “After spending 2 months on the road with him, and collaborating and writing music with him, I learned a secret,” Weinman writes on his website. “He is a real person...he is an amazing person. Mike actually gives me honest advice while also encouraging me to always look out for myself…Mike is more than a great musician. He is a great human being.” In the interview, Weinman recognizes Patton as one of the most inspiring figures in his life, recalling the intense anticipation he had experienced while journeying with an idolized artist that left him star struck for “the first and last time”.
Own it…The bottom line is are you going to go up there and kill it or not? That is 100 percent on you.
In an atmosphere of mutual respect and humility, the candid conversation is speckled with fascinating ideologies about the core of musical execution and passion. Humor, wisdom, personal experience? The guys cover it all, from “mistakes that work” to the foundation of success. The engaging interview concludes with the two gifted artists musing on the continuing influences of their pivotal musical partnership, the experimentation and stimulus it dared in both. “Your music made me do that,” Patton adds, chuckling. “Seriously, I’ve never done anything like that before that or maybe ever again.”
Before the screen fades to black, the two empowering artists gift listeners with the hopeful promise of more legendary moments as Patton looks into the camera, saying, “We’ll do something again, who knows?”